The maximal normal subgroup growth type of a finitely generated group is $n^{ \log n}$. Very little is known about groups with this type of growth. In particular, the following is a long standing problem: Let $\Gamma$ be a group and $\Delta$ a subgroup of finite index. Suppose $\Delta$ has normal subgroup growth of type $n^{ \log n}$, does $\Gamma$ has normal subgroup growth of type $n^{ \log n}$? We give a positive answer in some cases, generalizing a result of M\"uller and the second author and a result of Gerdau. For instance, suppose $G$ is a profinite group and $H$ an open subgroup of $G$. We show that if $H$ is a generalized Golod-Shafarevich group, then $G$ has normal subgroup growth of type of $n^{ \log n}$. We also use our methods to show that one can find a group with characteristic subgroup growth of type $n^{ \log n}$.
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