Q. Did you command the crowd to disperse?
A. We undertook to keep the crowd off the tracks, but our force was not sufficient. As soon as we would get one track cleared, they would come in on the other. It would have required at two or three o'clock--it would have required a hundred men to clear the tracks, and do it effectually, and I did not have the necessary force to do it with. They appeared to loiter around there talking, and the crowd kept on increasing.
Q. Did you get any further instructions after you returned to the city and reported to the chief of police?
A. I got no further instructions, I remember, from the chief; he instructed me to turn the force over to officer Fowler, and report at the city hall.
Q. Do you know, of your own knowledge, what were the movements of the police force there during the balance of the day?
A. During the balance of the day the force was increased to, I think, at Twenty-eighth street, thirty men--twenty-five or thirty men--during the evening. They remained on duty all night.
Q. Was there any effort made to run out trains during the afternoon of Thursday?
Q. Were you not on an engine, and were you not driven off?
A. I was not; the officers can be got here that went on that engine.
A. Officer Saul Coulston and officer Robert Fowler.
Q. Did you have any further connection with the movements of the police?
A. Not in the capacity of commander or leader.
Q. Were you present at any of the disturbances after that?
A. I went through it all, backward and forward, around the city, in the capacity of an officer.
Q. Were the police, to your knowledge, reinforced in the morning of the 20th--Friday morning.
A. No, sir; the police force was not reinforced until Tuesday morning--the following Tuesday--that is, were not organized. Then the regular force was filled up and organized by the committee of safety. But a number of the men who were called on on Monday and Sunday responded. But the regular organization did not take place until Tuesday.
Q. They responded whenever the calls were made?
A. A number of them responded on Sunday, after the fire was going on.
Q. Was there any difficulty, so far as you know, in reinforcing the police force?
A. I know, from my own experience, that there was considerable difficulty in bringing the men dropped from the rolls when there was no trouble,--in bringing them to the front after the trouble commenced. A great many of them objected to going on duty.