Q. On Thursday or Friday was this crowd boisterous or destroying things?
A. They were not destroying things. On Friday they were stopping all the trains coming in--stopping trains, and then hooking on locomotives and running the cattle cars, for instance, to Torrens station, and letting the cattle out in the field. In fact, Mr. Pitcairn will remember that we were ordered out of the locomotive that we were on, to let them run cattle out.

Q. Not on Thursday and Friday, but after the firing occurred, how was the sympathy?

A. I think the sympathy was with the strikers from the first. I feel satisfied it was. But I am only giving you my own opinion.

Q. But you give that opinion, having formed it after intercourse with the people, and after being in the crowd?
A. Yes; I talked with a great many of them, and they appeared to think it was a hardship to reduce the wages and the numbers of the men, and also, once in a while, they would bring in this freight discrimination question.
Q. If you had had the warrants on Thursday night, could you have arrested those parties?
A. If I had had a posse of two hundred or two hundred and fifty I probably could have arrested them, but probably there would have been somebody killed. I believe on Thursday morning if I had had the number of police that Mayor McCarthy had, I could have arrested the leaders, and put in prison the disorderly parties, and that then the trouble would not have assumed the proportions it did. That is only my own idea of it.
A. As I said before, I was out of Pittsburgh part of Thursday. I was called away on business.
Q. But from the time you became acquainted with the difficulty first?
A. On Thursday morning I saw the crowd gathering around, and I think then if I had had a force and had been called on to anything with the force that Mayor McCarthy had, I think I could have done some good, but on Thursday night at one o'clock, I do not think it could have been done.
Q. When those messages were brought in and read to the crowd as coming from other parties, were there any messages sent out to them in reply?
Q. Did those messages come in answer to messages that had been sent out?
A. I cannot answer that. I have given you about the purport of the messages. Probably if General Pearson shall be called he might recollect the purport a little distincter than I have.





