Mr. Justice REED, with whom Mr. Justice MINTON joins, dissenting.

This case is controlled entirely by the rule enunciated by the majority in the second ground for the decision in Quinn v. United States, 349 U.S. 155, 75 S.Ct. 668. We shall not here repeat our comments made regarding that rule and its application which are set out in our dissent in the Quinn and Emspak cases. But we cannot agree that under the Quinn rule the petitioner here was not sufficiently apprised of the disposition of his Fifth Amendment and pertinency objections for him to be held guilty of violating § 192. For us the record establishes, as it did for the two courts below, that the petitioner knew that the grounds for his objections were not accepted by the committee; that the committee required him to answer; that he willfully refused to answer. As the majority stated the rule in Quinn, 75 S.Ct. p. 677, 'the committee is not required to resort to any fixed verbal formula to indicate its disposition of the objection. So long as the witness is not forced to guess the committee's ruling, he has no cause to complain.' Under this rule we think that the extract from the record set out below places this petitioner in the status of one who 'has no cause to complain.'

Bart v. United States/Dissent Reed

'Mr. Walter: Did you ever hold any positions other than positions with newspapers?

Bart v. United States/Dissent Reed

'Mr. Bart: I did.

Bart v. United States/Dissent Reed

'Mr. Walter: What were they?

'Mr. Bart: I was organizer and head of the Communist Party at different times, in different years.

'Mr. Walter: Where?

'Mr. Bart: In Illinois and Pennsylvania, among many.

'Mr. Tavenner: The Daily Worker of March 28, 1936, shows you to have been a section organizer for the Communist Party in Ohio. That is correct, is it not?

'Mr. Bart: Most likely.

'Mr. Tavenner: Well, you know whether you were a section organizer for the Communist Party in Ohio, do you not?

'Mr. Bart: I do not know the exact period of time you mentioned. It is 14 years ago.

'Mr. Tavenner: Who were the other officials of the Ohio section of the Communist Party during the period of time you were organizer there? (Count 8, emphasis supplied.)

'Mr. Bart: I object to this question. I will not answer it, standing on my rights in accordance with Article V of the Constitution, and furthermore I protest because this committee has asked this question of numerous people and has infringed upon their rights as American citizens.

'Mr. Tavenner: I think, Mr. Bart, I should point out that your testimony relating to other people who were associated with you at that time could not in any way incriminate you under the Fifth Amendment.

'Mr. Unger: I should like to correct you, Mr. Tavenner.

'Mr. Walter: You advise your client.

'Mr. Tavenner: You have told us you were a section organizer for the Communist Party in Ohio, and my question now is, who were the officials who worked with you in that work, that is, officials of the Ohio section of the Communist Party?

'Mr. Unger: Permit me to advise my client that Mr. Tavenner, counsel, is in error in his interpretation of the Constitution so far as the Fifth Amendment is concerned, and that Mr. Bart, the witness, is entirely correct in his interpretation of the Constitution, and has a right to assert that this committee has no right-no right, let me make it plain-

'Mr. Walter: Under our procedure the attorney is permitted to advise his client and then the client, the witness, answers the question. You may advise your client.

'Mr. Unger: As he has stated in his previous answer, he is not required to testify against himself.

'Mr. Bart: I stand on the advice of my counsel. I am not required to testify against myself, and in accordance with Article V of the Constitution I will not answer the question.

'Mr. Tavenner: I was not asking you to testify against yourself. I was asking you to state the names of other persons associated with you.

'Mr. Bart: I consider this an attempt on the part of the committee to use this against myself as well as against others, as it has on many previous occasions.

'Mr. Walter: And therefore you refuse to answer?