Mr. JENNER. Your husband's given name is Charles F.; is that right?
Mrs. MURRET. Yes, sir; they call him "Dutz."
Mrs. MURRET. Yes; and they put it in the telephone book that way, because he was in the fight game years ago. He managed some fighters, and they have a lot of contact with sportswriters, and they knew him by the name of "Dutz," so that's why he went and put it in the telephone book, rather than Charles, so that they would know who he was, I guess.
Mr. JENNER. Is your telephone listed in that name?
Mrs. MURRET. Yes; that's what I said. It's still listed that way. His uncle gave him that nickname when he was a small child, and I always knew him by the name of "Dutz." I never call him anything else but that, but his family always called him Charles.
Mr. JENNER. What is your husband's business again?
Mr. JENNER. Is there anything else you can remember about Lee Oswald, the father of Lee Harvey Oswald?
Mrs. MURRET. I don't remember anything else; no. I didn't know anything about him at all other than being an insurance clerk and coming around the house to collect insurance. He sort of maybe seemed to be a little forward maybe, I thought, but, like a lot of insurance men, maybe it helps on the debits, you know.
Mr. JENNER. He was aggressive in collecting the accounts; do you mean?
Mr. JENNER. But not forward in any other respect?
Mr. JENNER. Do you know anything about his family?
Mrs. MURRET. I know nothing about the Oswald family. I only met one brother who was the godfather of Lee--little Lee Oswald, you know--and I think his name was Harvey, maybe. I wouldn't be sure about that.
Mrs. MURRET. I believe that's what it was, but that's about all I know about the Oswald family. He's the only one I knew or ever saw.
Mr. JENNER. Do you know where Harvey Oswald is now?
Mrs. MURRET. He's dead now. I just saw him one time, and that was after Lee was born. He came over to the house, and I think they were friendly with Marguerite and all, but all of a sudden there was no more friendship. I don't know why.
Mr. JENNER. Did this friendship terminate while the marriage still existed, or was it afterward?
Mrs. MURRET. I think afterward. I don't know whether there was any friendship with the Oswald family during this marriage or not. I couldn't say. She never spoke about it, but I do know, after the death of the brother, they had some dissension about something. I don't know what, but that ended that friendship with the Oswalds.